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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2011/02/living-life-is-better-than-dying-in-college/#comment-46812</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two time drop out here with plenty of student debt. Sarcasm aside, that is what I am doing: Seeing my ridiculous debt and actions as a valuable life experience.

What else can I do?

There is a lot to be learned from managing capital and credit. Aspects of personal finance that I was oblivious to while digging into debt for a degree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two time drop out here with plenty of student debt. Sarcasm aside, that is what I am doing: Seeing my ridiculous debt and actions as a valuable life experience.</p>
<p>What else can I do?</p>
<p>There is a lot to be learned from managing capital and credit. Aspects of personal finance that I was oblivious to while digging into debt for a degree.</p>
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		<title>By: hyperdant</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found your article quite interessing, because I have a totally different perspective on that, certainly because I&#039;m not American, I&#039;m French. And in France, the education system is basically free (or 500 $/year, of course there is still private and costly school, such as Engineer School and Business School), but the fact is, we have one of the largest inequality system concerning the acess to high education...


And in France, if you don&#039;t have a degree you can&#039;t be recognized for what you&#039;ve done, and you can&#039;t pretend to &quot;white collar jobs&quot; without a good degree. The jobs market is much more 


Knowing that, I think every people who could go to college, should go and graduate.
And I do not take into account, all the memories, the true life-lasting friendship you could make, and the few more years of innocence you can grab.


Of course, not everything you study in college, will be used later in your life, and your reasonning coudl be totally true IF you make valuable the time save by doing something useful, but we both know that is rarely the case...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your article quite interessing, because I have a totally different perspective on that, certainly because I&#8217;m not American, I&#8217;m French. And in France, the education system is basically free (or 500 $/year, of course there is still private and costly school, such as Engineer School and Business School), but the fact is, we have one of the largest inequality system concerning the acess to high education&#8230;</p>
<p>And in France, if you don&#8217;t have a degree you can&#8217;t be recognized for what you&#8217;ve done, and you can&#8217;t pretend to &#8220;white collar jobs&#8221; without a good degree. The jobs market is much more </p>
<p>Knowing that, I think every people who could go to college, should go and graduate.<br />
And I do not take into account, all the memories, the true life-lasting friendship you could make, and the few more years of innocence you can grab.</p>
<p>Of course, not everything you study in college, will be used later in your life, and your reasonning coudl be totally true IF you make valuable the time save by doing something useful, but we both know that is rarely the case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A college degree is a basic signaling device that shows people that you are educable. It also is a social signal that you are of a certain class.

Class distinction in America is everything, and not having a college degree is absolutely frowned on by many people.

Imagine that you are in a business meeting, I have been in 4 this week. In not one of those meetings was there a single person without a bachelors degree. Over 1/2 had an MBA and a few also had JD (who were not lawyers.) many of us attended small private Universities, Ivys, or little northeastern Ivys. 

With the exception of a few finance classes, micro and macro, and the MBA and law school guys, most of these degrees had very little impact on our business dealings. Instead these sheepskins are just an entry ticket to get into the door.

The problem is that without a degree, you are viewed as just another unwashed striver. Why should I listen to someone&#039;s business idea? I get pitched ideas all of the time. I have found that the younger, poorer, and less educated that you are, the more likely it is that you &quot;want to go into business&quot; or &quot;want to be an entrepreneur]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A college degree is a basic signaling device that shows people that you are educable. It also is a social signal that you are of a certain class.</p>
<p>Class distinction in America is everything, and not having a college degree is absolutely frowned on by many people.</p>
<p>Imagine that you are in a business meeting, I have been in 4 this week. In not one of those meetings was there a single person without a bachelors degree. Over 1/2 had an MBA and a few also had JD (who were not lawyers.) many of us attended small private Universities, Ivys, or little northeastern Ivys. </p>
<p>With the exception of a few finance classes, micro and macro, and the MBA and law school guys, most of these degrees had very little impact on our business dealings. Instead these sheepskins are just an entry ticket to get into the door.</p>
<p>The problem is that without a degree, you are viewed as just another unwashed striver. Why should I listen to someone&#8217;s business idea? I get pitched ideas all of the time. I have found that the younger, poorer, and less educated that you are, the more likely it is that you &#8220;want to go into business&#8221; or &#8220;want to be an entrepreneur</p>
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		<title>By: Open Minded</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, James

I could not agree more.  I support education but the reality is that college is not the only way to receive education and college isn&#039;t for everyone. Most people learn by actually working and gaining experience.  Another thing that should be abolished is &quot;Education Discrimination&quot; which means being discriminated for not having a certain diploma or degree.  It should be illegal for companies to have as a requirement that employees need to have a certain degree or diploma to be able to be employed in that company or be able to pursue a higher position within the company.   If you have the knowledge and experience you should be given the same opportunity.  

Imagine if Bill Gates applies for a job at Microsoft and Steve Jobs applies for a job at Apple and Mark Zuckerberg applies for a job at Facebook and all were denied because of &quot; Education Discrimination&quot;.

This happens everyday so you could imagine all the talented people that are being denied better jobs or jobs period.  Not only do they lose but all of society loses.

I can keep on going but lets just leave at that for now.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, James</p>
<p>I could not agree more.  I support education but the reality is that college is not the only way to receive education and college isn&#8217;t for everyone. Most people learn by actually working and gaining experience.  Another thing that should be abolished is &#8220;Education Discrimination&#8221; which means being discriminated for not having a certain diploma or degree.  It should be illegal for companies to have as a requirement that employees need to have a certain degree or diploma to be able to be employed in that company or be able to pursue a higher position within the company.   If you have the knowledge and experience you should be given the same opportunity.  </p>
<p>Imagine if Bill Gates applies for a job at Microsoft and Steve Jobs applies for a job at Apple and Mark Zuckerberg applies for a job at Facebook and all were denied because of &#8221; Education Discrimination&#8221;.</p>
<p>This happens everyday so you could imagine all the talented people that are being denied better jobs or jobs period.  Not only do they lose but all of society loses.</p>
<p>I can keep on going but lets just leave at that for now.    </p>
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		<title>By: Failure First</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Failure First]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dropped out of college. Started first company when I was 21 and failed - started another at age 23 and failed - then started a 3rd company and left it when I was 28 - then started a 5th company and it crashed also -- Now I am planning to start a 6th company.

Failures are my best friend..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dropped out of college. Started first company when I was 21 and failed &#8211; started another at age 23 and failed &#8211; then started a 3rd company and left it when I was 28 &#8211; then started a 5th company and it crashed also &#8212; Now I am planning to start a 6th company.</p>
<p>Failures are my best friend..</p>
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		<title>By: karlson</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2011/02/living-life-is-better-than-dying-in-college/#comment-44645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[karlson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo, anyone should read &quot;A Millionaire&#039;s Mind&quot; by Stanley. Stop being paranoid about not having a degree. Never follow the crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, anyone should read &#8220;A Millionaire&#8217;s Mind&#8221; by Stanley. Stop being paranoid about not having a degree. Never follow the crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: KGLevine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KGLevine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So agree and rant that no kid should go to college until self supporting for a year. Also think the universal draft with an option for  armed service or good works service might just get our country back on track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So agree and rant that no kid should go to college until self supporting for a year. Also think the universal draft with an option for  armed service or good works service might just get our country back on track.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Larsson</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2011/02/living-life-is-better-than-dying-in-college/#comment-44459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess Larsson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 01:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming from an 18 year old (who to the contrary, thoroughly enjoys philosophy.) just completed her first semester at the University of Connecticut, then realized all of the above was true (prior to reading this);  I packed up my life, gave a BS reason for leaving to most people who asked and moved to North Carolina to live with my father. 
Yesterday I dropped out of college. I&#039;ve never been happier, or felt more responsible for my experience. Life on this earth is short, literally we live about 100 years. In the grand scheme of things that is synonymous with a grain of sand. If that. Before I jump back into &quot;college&quot; I want to CHOOSE my experience, make an impact, enjoy the damn ride. Then I will go be a sheep. 
Until then... Never stop exploring. LIFE begins at the edge of your comfort zone. 


- Jess]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from an 18 year old (who to the contrary, thoroughly enjoys philosophy.) just completed her first semester at the University of Connecticut, then realized all of the above was true (prior to reading this);  I packed up my life, gave a BS reason for leaving to most people who asked and moved to North Carolina to live with my father.<br />
Yesterday I dropped out of college. I&#8217;ve never been happier, or felt more responsible for my experience. Life on this earth is short, literally we live about 100 years. In the grand scheme of things that is synonymous with a grain of sand. If that. Before I jump back into &#8220;college&#8221; I want to CHOOSE my experience, make an impact, enjoy the damn ride. Then I will go be a sheep.<br />
Until then&#8230; Never stop exploring. LIFE begins at the edge of your comfort zone. </p>
<p>&#8211; Jess</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Grande</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Grande]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just awesome. And it&#039;s part of the financial planning advice I am giving to clients. Kids need to learn skills such as languages, basic computer programming, basic statistics, negotiating, how to listen and process info, etc. But paying 50k/year to take an English class in the middle of the woods of some snowy state? Not sure I see the value...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just awesome. And it&#8217;s part of the financial planning advice I am giving to clients. Kids need to learn skills such as languages, basic computer programming, basic statistics, negotiating, how to listen and process info, etc. But paying 50k/year to take an English class in the middle of the woods of some snowy state? Not sure I see the value&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another great article James. I am very pleased to find this website and I love the vibe I&#039;m getting from it so far.

I am another one of your young readers, 19 this year, on her way to university after taking a gap year. Obviously, being Asian (I can relate to the book Tiger Mom), not going to university is a huge no-no.  I have been accepted into a number of presitigious universities to do biology/zoology, but am thinking of rejecting them all. What&#039;s the point of spending $120,000 to get a piece of paper that qualifies you to work in a field that will pay you less than $2,000 per month? 

After my gap year, I began to view university as an option, not a necessity. It is an institution that churns out desensitized people with a piece of degree, saddled with debt, who think that finding a well-paid job working for someone else is the way to success and alas, find that elusive idea we term happiness. I was brought up to think this way - but I longer do.

I have sent you an email James regarding some advice needed. Hope to hear from you again. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article James. I am very pleased to find this website and I love the vibe I&#8217;m getting from it so far.</p>
<p>I am another one of your young readers, 19 this year, on her way to university after taking a gap year. Obviously, being Asian (I can relate to the book Tiger Mom), not going to university is a huge no-no.  I have been accepted into a number of presitigious universities to do biology/zoology, but am thinking of rejecting them all. What&#8217;s the point of spending $120,000 to get a piece of paper that qualifies you to work in a field that will pay you less than $2,000 per month? </p>
<p>After my gap year, I began to view university as an option, not a necessity. It is an institution that churns out desensitized people with a piece of degree, saddled with debt, who think that finding a well-paid job working for someone else is the way to success and alas, find that elusive idea we term happiness. I was brought up to think this way &#8211; but I longer do.</p>
<p>I have sent you an email James regarding some advice needed. Hope to hear from you again. </p>
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