I had chronic Lyme for five years and couldn’t work for four years, often was too tired to walk across the room, change clothes, or shower and barely was able to keep taking care of myself. within three months on ozone I moved, got an internship and started working again.

Ozone is better than antibiotics in that it moves out the biotoxins while it’s working, so the herxing is not as bad, and it also oxygenates the body (by increasing 2,3-DPG). Some people are afraid of it since it sounds like it creates free radicals, but it actually works by stimulating antioxidant production by the body and other downstream chemical changes through “hormesis.”

Youtube videos on ozone and Lyme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwnT9XrCMY

this woman works as a lawyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu3tSt7WOZI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsooRlmPRkM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnjWSqDWzeg

The standard way to use ozone for Lyme is a combination of ozone steam saunas daily (gets it into the lymph and raises body temperature, very powerful) and ozone insufflations (vaginal, rectal, or ears), pretty much every day for a year, while taking nutritional support for glutathione production (whey, high-gamma Vitamin E, minerals, etc). You can join the yahoo group ozonetherapy to learn more from the doctor who runs that group.

Also see this book for info on the importance of avoiding mold biotoxins while dealing with CFS or Lyme or any sort of fatigue disorder: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Edge-Discovery-Desperately-Syndrome-ebook/dp/B00EDGEHT2

Think about what you wrote. You accept that vitamin D is essential to a functional immune system, which means an immune system that can start itself up when needed, and shut itself down when excessive, and attack the right things. As an analogy, depriving your body of vitamin D is like ripping the electronics out of your car — in contrast to using Prednisone to suppress your immune system which is more like just just slashing the tires on a car so it can’t move fast. The two are very different things. So your comparison is flawed.

Or from another angle, by your logic of alternative causality, diabetics with high blood sugar maybe should eat a lot more
sugar to get well, because the disease must be causing the high blood
sugar (not also what a person eats). So if we raise high blood sugar even more with candy, that will cure diabetes? Highly unlikely, and
in practice, that strategy would just kill a diabetic faster, which we know from observation and presumably experiment (like animal studies). But could it have been true? Yes. But it isn’t.

How is that different from Marshall’s argument that Lyme causes lower vitamin D levels and so vitamin D levels should be lowered even more?

Even if Lyme shuts down 30% of receptors (where is your evidence?) that just argues for supplementing all the more with vitamin D (while managing any symptoms of your immune system finally kicking Lyme out of your body).

I challenge you to provide any significant scientific studies supporting your points (or Marshall’s) including the suggesting that Lyme reduces vitamin D levels of that “Happily, the science is mounting that hormone D supplementation is a mistake.”. Whereas if you go to the vitamin D council, or Dr. Fuhrman’s, you will find lots of studies supporting my points. And there is also plenty of anecdotal evidence (me included, and I considered the Marshall Protocol briefly, I’m so glad I rejected it) that eating better and getting enough vitamin D can reduce joint pain and so on.

Yes, I agree the commercial tie-in on Dr. John Cannell’s site is problematical. It’s sad it is hard to get funding for health education that goes (especially at the time, years ago) counter to conventional wisdom. I’d rather his site did not have that (same for Dr. Fuhrman selling products).

Are there situations, like having sarcoidosis like Marshall had (a calcium regulation problem), where extra vitamin D could be problematical? Yes. But they are very rare. Most of the industrialized world suffers from vitamin D deficiency, not excess. Could there be a way that an odd disease exploits vitamin D to somehow be more effective in spreading? Maybe. But where is the good evidence for that (other than speculation)? There is lots of good evidence for the role of vitamin D in fighting infection as well as preventing cytokine storms (from too much immune action). See for example:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/news-archive/2009/h1n1-flu-and-vitamin-d/

Again, vitamin D is not like Prednisone. It helps the immune system *both* start up and shut down. Crippling your immune system because it is working poorly is not a solution. Improving your immune system is likely a better solution.

As a financial analogy, what would James Altucher say if you see headlines about a company like GM having failing finances (like a failing immune system)? That pulling more money out of the company would make it financially healthier because you would stop reading bad news about the company in the headlines? Yes, there might be situations where that could be true that pulling money out of a failing company might transform it into a more effective operation, but generally it is not true. And certainly it’s true that after a company goes bankrupt (dies) you are not going to have bad headlines about it for that much longer.

If people are eating junk food (refined starch sugar, dairy, too much meat, processed food products with additives) and also have low vitamin D, doesn’t it stand to reason that an inability to deal with an infection is more likely from lifestyle than from anything else? Is eating more junk food and taking less vitamin D going to solve the problem? It just seems very unlikely. Not impossible (some rare people may have sarcoidosis etc. like Marshall), but very, very unlikely. I’d still suspect maybe Marshall eats a lot of junk food? So, might there be a few people who benefit from Marshall’s treatment? Maybe. But I’d suggest that at least 10,000 people will be harmed for every one helped.

The bottom line: if someone has Lyme symptoms after routine antibiotic
treatments, you need to start eating a lot healthier (more fruits and
vegetables) and get your vitamin D level checked (and probably look at
iodine levels too). Might other things (herbs) help too? Maybe. But you have to get the basics right.

I bought a dozen books on Lyme a few years ago. A couple mentioned people feeling better when getting sunlight or eating a Lyme diet (which is not that far from Dr. Fuhrman’s). I thought those were ridiculous suggestions at first (and a new diet impossible to realistically follow), and I wanted the magic bullet of herbs and antibiotics. But the vitamin D and eating better worked for me. I even lost about 50 excess pounds and felt better in all sorts of ways, and my skin looked better, I had more color to my face. I got my drivers license renewed, and the picture on it of me almost a decade older, looks far healthier than that of a decade ago.

Abbott and Costello were able to convincingky prove that 13 times 7 equalled 21 and used division and addition to seamlessly corroborate their flawed logic.

The reality is that there is a nearly infinite stream of “counter” explanations and false associations promoted by all communities to further their own needs. That obviously includes individuals in the scientific community. However, science builds on ityself and withstands scrutiny. The myriad of disconnected hypotheses that are pushed as “truths du jour” do not and disappear into the ether when scrutiny is applied.

The further reality is that the scientific method, including controlled study, application of epidemiological principles and analyses will never become behind the times, as they are objective analyses of quantifiable outcomes and not a house built upon layers upon layers of faulty suppositions.

As for vitamin D, consider that human evolved outdoors, wearing little clothes in the summer, and near the equator. But now humans in industrialized cultures live at extreme latitudes wearing lots of clothes and living indoors most of the time, most people are vitamin D deficient unless they supplement (or use UV lamps or whatnot). Maybe Innuit were a bit of an exception, but they eat a lot of whole fish that has some vitamin D (and their health was not that great).

But, humans also evolved, in general, eating a lot of vegetables and fruits. But, most people in industrialized countries don’t eat that way now, and so are likewise deficient in phytonutrients.

While certainly there are rare situations where genetics is the primary factor in the main symptoms of a disease (and perhaps many cases that present as CF may be them), most of what most people suffer from can’t be blamed so easily on “genetics”. As Dr. Fuhrman says, genetics may give us “weak links”, but whether those weak links get pulled on to the point of breaking usually has to do with things like nutrition and lifestyle.

Most cases of type II diabetes can be eliminated with improved nutrition (again, see Dr. Fuhrman or others with proven cases). Much type I diabetes may be from vitamin D deficiency and nutrition (and while it may not be reversible like Type II, it still can be much better managed with a high nutrient diet to avoid many complications). Most heart disease can be reversed by diet too (without stents, bypasses, or all that other expensive stuff). Fasting (juice or water) can work a lot of miracles, too.

You may not believe it, but if you look around, you will see case after case of that. And study after study. Welcome to the nutritional revolution.

Still, that probably only covers maybe 80% of medical problems. For accidents, some infections, and yes, some rare genetic conditions, modern medicine is the way to go. The problem is, most doctors don’t know their limits or much about alternatives like superior nutrition, so they mistreat that 80% with pills or surgery.

BTW, as Dr. Fuhrman points out, most vegetarians and vegans still eat poorly (too much starch, dairy, and fake meat junk food).

The bottom line — for someone with something like Cystic Fibrosis, and at increased risk of stuff like pneumonia, they should be eating *better* than everyone else, not worse, to prevent the complications which they don’t have as much physical health resources to deal with. Likewise for people with heart disease or diabetes and so on.

See also the PubMed stuff this links to: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/respiratory/cystic-fibrosis/further-research/

Vitamin D is not a vitamin, it is a steroid that controls the immune system (and thus reduces the SYMPTOMS of inflammatory diseases like Lyme.)

This is critical: “Deficiency” is not CAUSING these diseases, but is a RESULT of these disease – correlation is not causality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_d : “Vitamin D is a group of fat-soluble secosteroids. In humans, vitamin D is unique both because it functions as a prohormone and because the body can synthesize it”

A vitamin is a nutrient that cannot be synthesized by the body (so we
have to eat it). As it says above, we synthesize D in our skin, so again, D is not a vitamin.

Being a hormone, D activates a RECEPTOR (Vitamin D Receptor) as do other hormones in other receptors like the thyroid or the gonads. Real vitamins don’t dock into receptors!

Like any hormone, D is a signalling molecule. It controls almost a thousand genes, including the ones for our immune system that manufactures our “natural antibiotics” – the antimicrobial peptides (McGill University). Shut off this VDR receptor and you shut off the immune system that is fighting Lyme. The tricky part is that as a side effect, you ALSO shut down the nasty painful inflammation. Result: you feel better for a while.

(Lyme bacteria shut down the D receptor by 30 fold! The HIV virus shuts it down 100 percent.)

Hormone D is the poor man’s prednisone – anyone with Lyme will tell you the LAST thing you want is prednisone, and for the same reasons. You feel better only temporarily.

Dr. Cannell gets money from promoting D, BTW as do other D proponents.
Happily, the science is mounting that hormone D supplementation is a mistake.

Of course, in the cases of deprivation, such as Vitamin D or C, there is strong correlation, the same can’t be said for other diseases.

Even in the case of adult onset diabetes, the relationship with diet is outwardly evident, but there is poor specificity and sensitivity, or in other words a preponderance of both false positives and false negatives.

In fact, where there is high correlation is in the basic building blocks of life. Whereas you suggest that even cystic fibrosis may have a root cause in nutrition, the science indicates that 100% of those with cystic fibrosis started life by carrying two recessive genes, one from each parent, that determines their disease state. Those genes determined the outcome at the instant of union of perm and egg.

If the develping fetus survived pregancy there was a 100% probability of having cytic fibrosis. Vegans do not have a lower rate of giving birth to cystic fibrosis free children, by the way.

In the case of Juvenile Onset Diabetes, what used to be referred to as IDDM (insulin dependent diabetes) there is a very strong genetic marker. There has never been any evidence that these kinds of genes can be turned on or off through nutritional intervention, although proper nutrition certainly will limit the devestation of high metabolic demands of the process of catabolism