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	<title>Comments on: 8 Things I Learned from My Failure to Make an Appeal for Wikipedia</title>
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		<title>By: TheAcsMan</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/01/8-things-i-learned-from-my-failure-to-make-an-appeal-for-wikipedia/#comment-29852</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I absolutely agree that the &quot;weirdos and noncomformists&quot; are necessary, as are the dreamers and artists.

But it&#039;s not that they are feeding us mis-truths. They are transmitting the truth of the future, or a deeper druth.

The human brain adapts,as you say, to some extent. But the human brai,as much as it seeks freedom to believe, also responds to authority and authoritative figures.

The belief that someone has greater insights or greater access to the truth explains why pastors and clergy has so much sway over the flock. Theree&#039;s a reason they are referred to as &quot;flock&quot;.

We are programmed to accept as the truth that which comes from those of higher authority, whether moral, political, business, etc.

Look at how people buy, hook, line and sinker what politicians feed tehm in the heat of a campaign.

No one listens to the fact checkers. 

Who reads the corrections in the New York TImes?

When the Papal encyclical absolved the Jewish people for the death of Jesus, how much did that do to eliminate 20 centuries of blind hatred?

So when Wikipedia is established as an authority, and that is what encyclopedias have always sought, the very idea that there is a lag between any &quot;weirdo&quot; entering information and it then getting delivered toi the masses who may or may not be able to filter out or forget the erroneous information, there&#039;s a problem.

Purity of information, as defined by its faithfulness to truth, is perhaps best to be defended by restricting the ability to add to the &quot;free&quot; body of information by anyone.

Do I really believe any of this? No, but, I still don&#039;t want to be part of the club that would have me as a member.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree that the &#8220;weirdos and noncomformists&#8221; are necessary, as are the dreamers and artists.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not that they are feeding us mis-truths. They are transmitting the truth of the future, or a deeper druth.</p>
<p>The human brain adapts,as you say, to some extent. But the human brai,as much as it seeks freedom to believe, also responds to authority and authoritative figures.</p>
<p>The belief that someone has greater insights or greater access to the truth explains why pastors and clergy has so much sway over the flock. Theree&#8217;s a reason they are referred to as &#8220;flock&#8221;.</p>
<p>We are programmed to accept as the truth that which comes from those of higher authority, whether moral, political, business, etc.</p>
<p>Look at how people buy, hook, line and sinker what politicians feed tehm in the heat of a campaign.</p>
<p>No one listens to the fact checkers. </p>
<p>Who reads the corrections in the New York TImes?</p>
<p>When the Papal encyclical absolved the Jewish people for the death of Jesus, how much did that do to eliminate 20 centuries of blind hatred?</p>
<p>So when Wikipedia is established as an authority, and that is what encyclopedias have always sought, the very idea that there is a lag between any &#8220;weirdo&#8221; entering information and it then getting delivered toi the masses who may or may not be able to filter out or forget the erroneous information, there&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>Purity of information, as defined by its faithfulness to truth, is perhaps best to be defended by restricting the ability to add to the &#8220;free&#8221; body of information by anyone.</p>
<p>Do I really believe any of this? No, but, I still don&#8217;t want to be part of the club that would have me as a member.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fubar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen well organized and talented religious extremists attack and silence their critics successfully on Wikipedia. If a group of extremists is large enough (in relative terms), dedicated and persevere, they can easily overwhelm the Wikipedia system and defeat social justice, mostly under the radar. This may be more of a problem for small groups of nonconformists (especially those that are mainly cyber-communities) than large ones that would attract at least some mainstream media coverage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen well organized and talented religious extremists attack and silence their critics successfully on Wikipedia. If a group of extremists is large enough (in relative terms), dedicated and persevere, they can easily overwhelm the Wikipedia system and defeat social justice, mostly under the radar. This may be more of a problem for small groups of nonconformists (especially those that are mainly cyber-communities) than large ones that would attract at least some mainstream media coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fubar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[poor/incomplete/inaccurate information has been a big problem for a long time. evolution wired the human brain to deal with it to some extent. most adaptive human learning is social learning, in the evolutionary sense. a few weirdos and nonconformists are always needed for survival, and to challenge the tendency for the collective to become coercive towards those that do not follow conventions, even when those conventions become dysfunctional.

The internet is a very weird thing - it is more &quot;free&quot; than most of what happens in human societies. Various groups are trying to limit what is &quot;free&quot; in the name of a &quot;better common good&quot;. They are probably liars.

The price of such &quot;freedom&quot;  is unpredictability, and perhaps overexposure to the unexpected.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor/incomplete/inaccurate information has been a big problem for a long time. evolution wired the human brain to deal with it to some extent. most adaptive human learning is social learning, in the evolutionary sense. a few weirdos and nonconformists are always needed for survival, and to challenge the tendency for the collective to become coercive towards those that do not follow conventions, even when those conventions become dysfunctional.</p>
<p>The internet is a very weird thing &#8211; it is more &#8220;free&#8221; than most of what happens in human societies. Various groups are trying to limit what is &#8220;free&#8221; in the name of a &#8220;better common good&#8221;. They are probably liars.</p>
<p>The price of such &#8220;freedom&#8221;  is unpredictability, and perhaps overexposure to the unexpected.</p>
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		<title>By: razz atrox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[razz atrox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, I really really like your writing. It&#039;s just egomaniacal enough to draw attention, and yet self abasing enough to feel it in the gut. On the other hand, this post was total crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I really really like your writing. It&#8217;s just egomaniacal enough to draw attention, and yet self abasing enough to feel it in the gut. On the other hand, this post was total crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Kohs</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/01/8-things-i-learned-from-my-failure-to-make-an-appeal-for-wikipedia/#comment-29337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Kohs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, Wikipedia made you so smart, you can confuse &quot;it&#039;s&quot; for &quot;its&quot;, and then confuse &quot;its&quot; for &quot;it&#039;s&quot;, all in the same blog post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Wikipedia made you so smart, you can confuse &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; for &#8220;its&#8221;, and then confuse &#8220;its&#8221; for &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221;, all in the same blog post!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, I hope to donate some money to wikipedia someday clicking on your appeal. I&#039;m quite happy that you failed because a) I didn&#039;t have any money to donate this year b) I got to read this terrific article from you! c) I got to realize that I too repurpose my efforts!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I hope to donate some money to wikipedia someday clicking on your appeal. I&#8217;m quite happy that you failed because a) I didn&#8217;t have any money to donate this year b) I got to read this terrific article from you! c) I got to realize that I too repurpose my efforts!!</p>
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		<title>By: D T</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/01/8-things-i-learned-from-my-failure-to-make-an-appeal-for-wikipedia/#comment-28887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what it is either but I bet a wikipedia search would explain it to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what it is either but I bet a wikipedia search would explain it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: babydoc3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[babydoc3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; the only reason I wanted to write it was for completely self-promotional and ego purposes &quot;

Nothing wrong with that. Hell, that&#039;s why I&#039;m making this comment. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the only reason I wanted to write it was for completely self-promotional and ego purposes &#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with that. Hell, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m making this comment. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/01/8-things-i-learned-from-my-failure-to-make-an-appeal-for-wikipedia/#comment-28578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sponsor an X Prize for the Wikichip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sponsor an X Prize for the Wikichip</p>
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		<title>By: EntrepreneursKorner</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/01/8-things-i-learned-from-my-failure-to-make-an-appeal-for-wikipedia/#comment-28517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EntrepreneursKorner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you do a post in relation to motivation when you can similar to: http://bit.ly/x9eS5c]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you do a post in relation to motivation when you can similar to: <a href="http://bit.ly/x9eS5c" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/x9eS5c</a></p>
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